solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 23:41

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Not likely, I will convince you. But I have written about that prviously. But in that earlier post I didn't focus on you, GUEST 7816. I ficused on the general problem, here on line, of how it is that people often seem more interested in confrontation and have no real interest in broadening their viewpoint or address ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 22:36

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Let' start with THREE QUESTIONS . . . . . . . . . Why do so many people in China not trust their own police and courts and how can this problem be solved? Why do so many people in China think that another crime is good punishment for a first crime and how can that attitude be changed? Do you think the answer to the ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 22:35

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I SIMPLY WANT TO FOCUS THE DISCUSSION ON REAL ISSUES AND STOP ALL THE ARGUMENT ABOUT MR. HALE. If you think my points are wrong, just explain why. If you did that, I would get my wish -- we would have a real discussion about a BIG ISSUE, rather than a discussion about gossip and politics and foreigners vs Chinese. AN...... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 22:31

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WHy do you think I have such poor motivation. Maybe that says something about your motivations. Rather than bash my motivations perhaps you might actually, finally make a comment about the point I have made. If you did that, why would I feel the need to be so persistent and patient. I SIMPLY WANT TO FOCUS THE ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 22:19

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Guest 7816, Lagos, MEIMEI, et all . . . why are you guys, some of you rather rudely, the other more politely writing so much about the length of my posts. But not one of you have commented on the points I have made? I made every point I wish to say in my first post . . . and you never commented, only resplied ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 21:28

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Lagos, I would really appreciated if you would ask Guest 7816 to respond to my comments. Because if you don't all that has happened her tonight, is that he has 'hijacked" you polite criticism to offer a few more rude comments of his own. It's up to you , my friend, but it is good to take responsibility and to ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 21:19

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Lagos . . . did you see what he wrote, I mean "guest 7816" I have asked hinm too, sir, just as I asked you above: please make a comment on the points i have made and stop attacking me. But he has never responded to what he calls the "some point" I am trying to make. Nor does he seem to know that the points I have ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 21:06

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GUEST 7816: what is the point I have tried to make? Would you kindly respond directly. You call my point, "some point" . . .but can you actual comment on my point, please? Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 21:04

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Guest 7816 wrote: that my posts are "repetitive or overkill with some point he wants to drive home." What is the point I want to drive home? Would you please comment on that? And please comment on the fact that in my initial post I anticipated that very few would want to talk about the real issue, that most would ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 20:54

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WOW . . . But you never responded to anything I said. You never once agreed or disagreed with the specific points I have made. Had you done that, why would there have been any need for me to repeat myself. Your initial comment suggested that I was in some way 'misusing the internet' becasue my comments took more ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 20:53

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WOW . . . But you never responded to anything I said. You never once agreed or disagreed with the specific points I have made. Had you done that, why would there have been any need for me to repeat myself. Your initial comment suggested that I was in some way 'misusing the internet' becasue my comments took more ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 20:47

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And, as to my comment about GUEST 7816 who referred to MeiMei as "dear". Really Lago, are you calling me only on the fact that I may have mistaken GUEST 7816 for a foreigner when in fact, he/she is Chinese? But you didn't say anything about how obvious it was the GUEST 7816 was adding nothing to the discussion but on...... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 20:37

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Do you agree or disagree, Sir: until such time as folks take a look at the real social issues behind the incident involving Mr. Hale and the confused aftermath regarding the justice or lack of justice he recieved no reasonable discussion is possible. Again, my position: it is a certain reality that a lack of RULE by ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 19:55

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Until such time as folks take a look at the certain reality behind the incident involving Mr. Hale and the confused aftermath regarding the justice or lack of justice he recieved no reasonable discussion is possible. It is a certain reality that a lack of RULE by LAW in China is the reason why normal Chinese ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 29, 2013 19:42

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Indeed, thank you for your observation. I am sure it does get a bit old reading the same thing again and again. It can GET A BIT OLD SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER too. But the thing is, Lago . . . this is my home too and the internet a tool that I would prefer to put to better us that a forum for name calling a...... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 16:30

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The result is so often contradictory -- crime as justice for crime. I certainly feel that the causes for this contradiction are very simple and quite obvious; and that, that unwillingness or inability to address root causes, coupled with the prevailing atmospere on the internet, which adds to the complexity, results ...... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 16:13

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I seems so obvious, to me, and I suspect you agree, how it is that there needs to be a lot more clear headed thinking and patience when discussing these matters. People, here online especially, are so quick these days to intentionally misunderstand each other, to make small issues into BIG DISCUSSION filled with ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 16:13

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And perhaps you have noticed how all this failure to do useful learning through generalization causes people here to be hugely distracted by little things - such as the way people have become distracted over the details of Mr. Hale's 'case', rather then focusing on the bigger matters involved. Ihave worked as an ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 13:22

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I seems so obvious, to me, and I suspect you agree, how it is that there needs to be a lot more clear headed thinking and patience when discussing these matters. People, here online especially, are so quick these days to intentionally misunderstand each other, to make small issues into BIG DISCUSSION filled with ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 12:52

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Exactly . . . and there needs to be a bit more clear headed thinking and patience when discussing these matters. People, here online especially, are so quick these days to intentionally misunderstand each other, to make small issues into DIG DISCUSSIon filled with politics, and so filed with enthusiasm for ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 12:17

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Guest 7816 wrote: "this isn't talking". Are you suggesting that insulting people is "talking?" Really? Are you suggesting that unthinking use of hyperbole such as MeiMei's approval of crime as "justice" is "talking"? really? When people reply even though they have clearly not understood each other is that "talking"? ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 12:06

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GUEST &*!^ Wrote: "leave me alone". When you ask me to "leave you alone" . . . What do you mean? "Leave you alone" from what? What is your goal? What is it that my "going on and on" has stopped you from doing? Could you explain that please? Did you have something you wanted to say? Come on now, let's be clear about ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 12:01

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-- so the fact is, Sir, it is I who should be asking you to mind your manners and stop avoiding real discussion and only intruding when you have an insult to offer. Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 11:51

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Have the courage of your own, unclear, conviction . . . and if you really think I am wrong, explain yourself. There woul dbe no need for me to contiue if the discussion focused on the real issue, the lack of RULE by LAW in China. I will be as patient as a saint with any well reasoned comment that suggests I am ... Full Comment>>

solhacehabravida

Jan 28, 2013 11:48

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-- what you call dominating, I call being fair minded. -- you have been the one attacking. I simply called you on it. Because I like to be fair minded. But also because, just in case, there are fair-minded Chinese citizens reading this post I would like them to see that not all westerners are immature. -- if I had ... Full Comment>>