Summer House Buying Blues: The Impending Doom of the House Slave

 Summer House Buying Blues: The Impending Doom of the House Slave
chamaflauge Aug 29, 2013 12:36

 

This summer in Shanghai prices have literally flown through the roof and people still keep buying.

 

Every time my wife open’s up her mouth she’s telling me about one of her stupid friends buying a house. I have to keep telling her that it’s not a house, it’s an apartment. Every time I hear about it I have to shake my head. If the combined income is not more than 30’000 Yuan a month how can one afford to buy a house apartment in Shanghai?

 

If with a combined salary of over 40’000 Yuan perhaps you can pay the loan off in reasonable time; but in actuality, in Shanghai who really makes that amount? Maybe 5% can reasonably afford to buy apartments at these ridiculous prices but around 80% are buying.

 

I and my wife’s combined income has almost reached 40’000 Yuan a month after taxes, but we have not even fathomed about purchasing (also her father said that he won’t contribute a dime because she married a foreigner) property in Shanghai; while on the other hand her friends who make half of what we do are putting down payments on 3 million Yuan properties in the middle of Huai Hai Lu. Let’s not forget that we all have children. All of them happen to have cars.

 

One of my wife’s friend’s husbands had a perfectly working car. All of his workmates upgraded to those gas guzzling Ford Expeditions. Because he wanted to be down he sold his perfectly working car for a 400’000 Yuan monster. The wife only makes around 4500 Yuan a month, while he’s pulling in around 20k.

 

I have seen this mass mania before. I was around during the tech boom of the 2000’s when everyone in America was trying to get their hands on a dot com stock. The 2009 collapse of the financial system because of subprime mortgages ruined countless lives.

I refuse to even think about buying because

1. We can’t afford it

2. Paying 500k USD for an apartment in an overcrowded and polluted city is absurd.

3. By the time down payment is finished you must give it back to the government.

4. With more than 25 million people concentrated in a handful of areas prices should be falling not rising. This is a bubble waiting to happen.

5. If I could afford to buy a home here what assurance do I have that I won’t be drilled to death by the renovation next door?

6. If the govt. decides to build a highway through your complex, who are you to stop them?

 

Everyone one I talk to is saying there will be no bubble. These are the exact symptoms of a mania. Some people are saying when the bubble does burst home buyers won’t be affected that much because Chinese don’t hold mortgages. This is not true. All of my wife’s friends represent the average Chinese. They all have mortgages. They all will be house(apartment) slaves for a very long time. I mean really where do you think the term house slave comes from, and implies?

 

I worked in Wuxi over the summer. Wuxi is only 40 minutes from Shanghai, and prices are still over the top; but much more reasonable. I saw a 38sq unfurnished loft for around 270’000 Yuan. This is unheard of in Shanghai, even in the most remote areas. Wuxi is also less crowded than Shanghai, and there is a noticeable difference in air quality. On average people are much nicer, and it is much quieter.

 

I believe just by gut instinct that your average home in your average neighborhood in Shanghai should not cost more than 600’000 rmb. The average income person in Shanghai is around 7-8000 rmb per month. The apartments near where I live in Pudong are going for 5-9 million rmb.

 

I just feel bad for the regular Zhang the plumber; who in order to get a woman, has to shell out more than 2 million rmb. I have to be honest. The Shanghai girls I have met so far I would consider paying someone to keep them away from me.

 

Anyway who am I to point fingers? America is 17 trillion in debt and is about to go to yet another war with Syria. Go figure.

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Guest2394832

yes, agree with you. the prices are extremely high. and pay for what? polution? allergy? and other “advantages” of big city... i would rather move to a small town near by sea, and have a simple life, instead of big city stress. in my opinion, big cities are only for work, not for life

Sep 11, 2013 15:17 Report Abuse

Guest655508

i come from a mostly tech/data background, so excuse me for taking it this angle, but, i think the primary thing here is that while you speak of shanghai housing prices, the name of your country of origin has a higher keyword density than the name of the country you are in now. simply said: you "don't get it" because... you don't live here. subconsciously you are still (thinking) american. i don't blame her father because your relationship could easily be seen as temporary.

Sep 02, 2013 08:23 Report Abuse

Guest655508

what you say is all totally true. but as you said, it is a mindset, which you do not share because all things truly you are mentally still calculating life as-an-american. the reasons behind chinese buying just don't apply to you as an american... nevertheless you are technically correct.

Sep 04, 2013 12:26 Report Abuse

expatlife26

You know it's crazy to me that China isn't even in the top 25(!) countries for density (even excluding super dense city states like singapore etc that don't count)...tons of what we consider to be 'normal' countries like germany, uk etc. are more dense. China has a ton of space it's just that everybody tries to pile into the same places at once. It is very much a hysteria mentality. A good rule of thumb for investment is that if "everybody" is doing something, it's already too late. Just as the time to buy tech stocks was 1994, the time to invest in chinese real estate was 1995, the people who did that got rich even off a modest investment of less than $100k US. The people who invested in 2002 have realized some fantastic gains too but if they weren't millionaires already it probably didn't launch them into true lap of luxury status. By 2008; you already had to be pretty wealthy by local standards even to buy one house let alone an investment property. The market's gone up since then of course, but the days of ordinary people being able to reasonably and profitably invest in real estate are long since past. The only thing though is when you calculate that rent over 20 years to factor in inflation. Assuming 5% rent increase per year comes to 2.2 million. Buying here is stupid, but buying in general is a bit of a hedge against inflation/rising cost of living, that 10K per month mortgage is a fixed cost regardless of what happens in the market.

Sep 13, 2013 18:02 Report Abuse